Scribble Theology: Pentecost Language and Trinitarianism
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I finally watched this episode because I realize I hadn't. I probably am way of base because my latest exploration of what the Trinity meant was in the good old Christian Faith class at Manchester College, that and additionally I havn't reread that textbook since I finished that class; that being said, isn't the Trinitatian Doctrine that 'all three (God the creator, God the son [I forgot the technical term there], and God the sustainer) are equally God as well as distinct persons, and yet there is only one God- kinda like a metaphysical and ontologically real dissociative identity disorder.
This said, one person of the three wouldn't be 1/3rd of God... at least according to trinitarians, if you give logic a miss for a short time.
Though, I am very rough around these and most theological edges.
If I happen to be right, sorry for calling you out on it... if I happen to be wrong, please enlighten me.
Well Steve, my simplest answer is that I do not offer a pass on the rules of logic. The doctrine of the trinity is inherently a contradiction, so anything I say that attempts to describe it is open to challenge. If I say Father is one third of the Trinity, you can argue that such a statement falsely applies some kind of division. However, if I say Father is all of God, you can argue that I am ignoring the other two persons of the Trinity.
I think I'll stand by my one-third statement, though, because however you split the hairs of the nature of the Trinity, it remains that there are three persons, or elements, or attributes, or what have you, and mathematically any one of those is one-third of the three--no matter how "one" they all are.
I'm sure that particular point is not where true Trinitarians will find cause for objection.
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I finally watched this episode because I realize I hadn't. I probably am way of base because my latest exploration of what the Trinity meant was in the good old Christian Faith class at Manchester College, that and additionally I havn't reread that textbook since I finished that class; that being said, isn't the Trinitatian Doctrine that 'all three (God the creator, God the son [I forgot the technical term there], and God the sustainer) are equally God as well as distinct persons, and yet there is only one God- kinda like a metaphysical and ontologically real dissociative identity disorder.
This said, one person of the three wouldn't be 1/3rd of God... at least according to trinitarians, if you give logic a miss for a short time.
Though, I am very rough around these and most theological edges.
If I happen to be right, sorry for calling you out on it... if I happen to be wrong, please enlighten me.
Liked this one... keep them up!
Well Steve, my simplest answer is that I do not offer a pass on the rules of logic. The doctrine of the trinity is inherently a contradiction, so anything I say that attempts to describe it is open to challenge. If I say Father is one third of the Trinity, you can argue that such a statement falsely applies some kind of division. However, if I say Father is all of God, you can argue that I am ignoring the other two persons of the Trinity.
I think I'll stand by my one-third statement, though, because however you split the hairs of the nature of the Trinity, it remains that there are three persons, or elements, or attributes, or what have you, and mathematically any one of those is one-third of the three--no matter how "one" they all are.
I'm sure that particular point is not where true Trinitarians will find cause for objection.
I would definately agree with that... you caught me nit-icking from a certain perspective that's not my own.
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